tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post6800426278347561887..comments2024-02-13T10:35:04.139-05:00Comments on SPRFLS: S&M Next Generation, HolmesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-83099859977890005212008-07-26T00:17:00.000-04:002008-07-26T00:17:00.000-04:00Speak it! Give it to them raw! It's all true. I...Speak it! Give it to them raw! It's all true. If they can't stand the truth... f-em'! Take your little whiney asses to the come up. If any of it isn't true, let us know. Explain to us what's fiction and what's not. We'll wait Detective Curuso. What you need to do is interview and ask straight from the horses mouth. Apparently the last few post are of dudes that have their heads up Chris's ass or their own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-79396823844008370712008-07-24T21:14:00.000-04:002008-07-24T21:14:00.000-04:00i still think all this is bullshit. i wont beleive...i still think all this is bullshit. i wont beleive it till i see it for sale.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-39339388073256575932008-07-24T17:40:00.000-04:002008-07-24T17:40:00.000-04:00Guess which burnt out vet pro posted that and win ...Guess which burnt out vet pro posted that and win a prize!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-90738461776319813002008-07-24T17:12:00.000-04:002008-07-24T17:12:00.000-04:00Want some more whine with your whine? Preach it!Want some more whine with your whine? Preach it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-37736359661872121492008-07-24T14:52:00.000-04:002008-07-24T14:52:00.000-04:00Holy bitterness, Moeller put you over a turn in B...Holy bitterness, Moeller put you over a turn in B Pro?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-12852218673047353392008-07-24T14:07:00.000-04:002008-07-24T14:07:00.000-04:00S & M? These guys are still trying to push th...S & M? These guys are still trying to push the envelope. I don't think so. Dude started out by putting stickers on someone else's shitty ass frames (http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/revcore/6292). Is that a pic of a holmes, or dirtbike or..... nevermind. Shady? Nah, clever. Put a bunch of drug addicted burnouts up in the house to produce product. Classic. Simple to bargain with huh? Had some thug life design the heaviest frame of all time that straight up sucked. Innovative? Must have been cause it was then a bike company race to produce the heaviest bike with enough metal build a YUGO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L38EAiniyuA). I think the YUGO might have been a better deal for your money. At least the Yugo's welds were complete and the wheels lined straight. Well lets put the past in the past. Now we have close end dropouts? Did he hire the meathead from Jad (http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/jad/576) ? So that's been done already. Plastic or nylon sprockets? We know what a hit that was in the 80's and with odyssey. Why not go all the way and make your shitty ass forks plastic too? A "pivotal" with a rail. You are a few years too late since Premium/Haro all ready dabbled in that. I guess the fact that your going to make some guts to switch straight pivotal to rail is kind of new and cool in theory, but if steel or aluminum guts and rails haven't ever held up, how the heck are plastic guts going to? Sounds like a lot of crap thats going to get shoved up someone's ass when it breaks off. Bearings on the outside? Seriously? What next? Handlebars inside the headtube? So I guess more of the same, no? Still copying others designs and acting like it's cutting edge. Now that's funny to me. The only thing I see being cutting edge at S&M is the way they have treated the riders over the years. Little or no pay. No rental cars, hotels or other "team" luxuries. Seems like a great way to "repay" his riders for their loyalty, dedication, devotion to a shitty ass company over so many years. I mean, you have done a lot for the sport. Oops, I actually meant the sport has done a lot for you. Way to repay it chris. Please explain how S&M gives back to our sport. The way you treat your employees or the riders. Most of whom can't afford even the basics working or riding for you. For some reason they stay loyal. So racer boy, I'm calling bullshit. I'm also calling bullshit in s&m being American made. Let's get this straight. The frames, forks, bars, etc. are made in AMERICA, not American made. Yes there is a difference. Made in America is just what it says.... made in AMERICA. You on the other hand choose to have your frames made by a group of illegal aliens..... that is not AMERICAN made. That is made in AMERICA. If you ran I.C.E (http://www.ice.gov/) through that metal shop, production would nearly cease. Make money, not friends dog. If nothing else, you can, "Blame it on the economy, STUPID!!!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-10527602411187117782008-07-24T13:16:00.000-04:002008-07-24T13:16:00.000-04:00yeah!yeah!bkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03247418130398315964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-23753713066737225952008-07-24T11:56:00.000-04:002008-07-24T11:56:00.000-04:00I'm positive Brien is a douche.I'm positive Brien is a douche.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-37756136440475881442008-07-24T05:32:00.000-04:002008-07-24T05:32:00.000-04:00Innovation for the nationInnovation for the nationAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-26672514800724723352008-07-24T02:55:00.000-04:002008-07-24T02:55:00.000-04:00i'm stoked on the "Grind Condom" analogy.i'm stoked on the "Grind Condom" analogy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-3920166944051129632008-07-23T23:22:00.000-04:002008-07-23T23:22:00.000-04:00"And the Dirt Bros video is the Sprocket Pocket li..."And the Dirt Bros video is the Sprocket Pocket link. I can't possibly recommend it highly enough."<BR/><BR/>I've been riding bikes for 69 years and I've been the best for 73 years.<BR/><BR/>This is all I have to contribute to this post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-16507178427000289332008-07-23T23:00:00.000-04:002008-07-23T23:00:00.000-04:00BMX is such a simple thing.Yet somehow, some way, ...BMX is such a simple thing.<BR/><BR/>Yet somehow, some way, dicks end up in the mashed potatoes.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09340428087762726550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-39063923739314876892008-07-23T20:23:00.000-04:002008-07-23T20:23:00.000-04:00i love anonymous 6:50.PS - my second statement was...i love anonymous 6:50.<BR/><BR/>PS - my second statement was worded terribly; i apologize.bkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03247418130398315964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-9289134644050907052008-07-23T19:04:00.000-04:002008-07-23T19:04:00.000-04:00I'm fully aware that S&M is 20 years old—I...I'm fully aware that S&M is 20 years old—I just wanted to link to a picture of a Warpig and show how much things have changed in the past decade. Fuckers.<BR/><BR/>And the Dirt Bros video is the Sprocket Pocket link. I can't possibly recommend it highly enough.Russhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03648040810233420802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-70070498340452869672008-07-23T18:50:00.000-04:002008-07-23T18:50:00.000-04:00I think Brien is kind of a douche.I think Brien is kind of a douche.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-84828362567006009602008-07-23T18:31:00.000-04:002008-07-23T18:31:00.000-04:00I hope you know S&M is 20yrs old Russ.I hope you know S&M is 20yrs old Russ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-64688974044651373672008-07-23T18:13:00.000-04:002008-07-23T18:13:00.000-04:00S&M = twenty years old, bro--not ten.S&M = twenty years old, bro--not ten.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-79203491566149165932008-07-23T17:55:00.000-04:002008-07-23T17:55:00.000-04:00Where's the Dirt Brothers Video?Where's the Dirt Brothers Video?Nick Ferreirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00030300137758231165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-18529471015720463542008-07-23T16:08:00.000-04:002008-07-23T16:08:00.000-04:00you could totally run those shimano cranks and a f...you could totally run those shimano cranks and a front derailleur and have a multispeed bike for getting maximum roostage!!!! imagine having a second gear for clearing the austin church gap with less pedalling effort. shit, with that "black hole" setup you could run a fat stack of rear gears as well. then you might actually have a chain that keeps reasonable tension.<BR/><BR/>i'm almost sure that no one ever had that idea in the late eighties to attempt to move more useless twenty inch units...right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-33287927312512001262008-07-23T15:42:00.000-04:002008-07-23T15:42:00.000-04:00"Grinding on plastic pedals is like grinding a ska..."Grinding on plastic pedals is like grinding a skateboard with copers on your trucks. It's sanitized, it's like a grind condom. No feeling."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Excellent,DUNCAN,excellent!G.S.GUCCILIFEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05793222737479346592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-73434944871867896372008-07-23T14:24:00.000-04:002008-07-23T14:24:00.000-04:00I was addressing the entire post, hence why I ment...I was addressing the entire post, hence why I mentioned the cranks. Functionality aside, the fact that the cranks retail for $350+ will certainly be a factor in their popularity within the BMX world. The race market might be receptive, but I don't know about street kids.<BR/><BR/>In regards to the dropouts, I actually really like the idea, but like others and myself have stated, it might be too late. Doesn't necessarily mean we're right; the internal headset wasn't exactly a needed technical progession, like the switch from 1" to 1 1/8" was, but it's obviously made it's mark and we're all thankful for it. People thought Euro B/B's were a step in the right direction for BMX, but fortunately, manufacturers have smartened up. More and more companies are coming out with female axle hubs, so the closed dropout could eventually make it's mark.bkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03247418130398315964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-51965909443038889532008-07-23T14:16:00.000-04:002008-07-23T14:16:00.000-04:00i want a plastic frame for frame grindsi want a plastic frame for frame grindstimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10579055188696876074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-55559909610664102682008-07-23T13:16:00.000-04:002008-07-23T13:16:00.000-04:00Isn't Free Agent running external BB bearings on i...Isn't Free Agent running external BB bearings on it's 2008 Crown Imperial? I remember them showing it off at Interbike in a video, but it doesn't reference it on their website.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-29171146978038274662008-07-23T13:13:00.000-04:002008-07-23T13:13:00.000-04:00"I still see bent/pinched dropouts at the shop, bu..."I still see bent/pinched dropouts at the shop, but they're usually on either bikes that are 10+ years old, or on inexpensive completes, ridden by kids who can barely feeble a 1ft ledge. If the closed drop idea came out in '99, it might've gone over a bit well, but it's unnecessary in '08."<BR/><BR/>Brien, obviously you're entitled to your opinion, and you work at a shop, so I'm sure this is the case in your little area. But, I'm going to have to go with a guy whose been making frames for over twenty years, and in a recent interview said they've sold an estimated 50,000 frames, not including Fit. I'm guessing Chris has a better idea of what is going on in the broad scheme of things.<BR/><BR/>"The cranks, meh. A lot of race bikes still use Euro b/b's as it is; I don't fuck with those things, so it's a moot point as far as I'm concerned."<BR/><BR/>Why even mention it if it doesn't concern you? I would venture to say Chris has a little more insight into the race scene than you do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-36146706991838813122008-07-23T12:02:00.000-04:002008-07-23T12:02:00.000-04:00The closed dropout is cool, but you're probably ri...The closed dropout is cool, but you're probably right: unnecessary, in that most dropouts don't extend beyond the peg anymore. A separate, tap-in axle like on a downhill MTB seems like a cool idea though. (I just thought of something...getting a flat while out riding becomes a bigger hassle than it already is...)<BR/><BR/>The DXR compatible BB is cool and uncool at the same time. I like the idea of running DXRs on street, if they'd make a regular sprocket. In terms of race bikes, there's no real need for it, because race bikes are Euro and should remain that way. To be honest, I'm not sure what's wrong with running a Euro on a street bike...I guess the bearings are smaller and people (not me) were breaking them. If Shimano wants to make a BB that'll go into a mid, they should include spacers so it'll run on <I>any</I> mid, not just an offset one. That's how the Saint BB worked on a BMX bottom bracket--a few spacers. I'd be stoked to see DXRs for street bikes w/a regular (but spline drive) sprocket.<BR/><BR/>Pivotal guts for regular seat rails isn't my thing. The reason why regular rails suck is that the bend. How much front to back adjustment can you get out of a tiny seat like the new S&M seats anyway? Pivotal is a great idea, and that's why it's taking over. Rails are done.<BR/><BR/>Plastic sprockets? Eh. Who cares if plastic slides fast?--it doesn't feel the same. Grinding on plastic pedals is like grinding a skateboard with copers on your trucks. It's sanitized, it's like a grind condom. No feeling. I will say that if Moeller were a complete asshole he could sell these sprockets as they are now--with teeth that bend and get mutilated--and make millions off the weight weenie kids who'd buy one every week. I suppose Lexan won't crack as easily as the graphite composite (or whatever it was...) on Addicks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com