tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post4215422795824118440..comments2024-02-13T10:35:04.139-05:00Comments on SPRFLS: Bash BrothersUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-37107432930076111422014-02-18T21:27:44.871-05:002014-02-18T21:27:44.871-05:00 Have you lost your ever lovin mind??You and all t... Have you lost your ever lovin mind??You and all these seat slammers should be kissing R.L. Osborns ass and thank him and his family for the sport of Free Style. bashing R.L. for his last name and saying he really wasnt that godd is a joke.Everything he touched turned to gold and was the most paid rider in the business.Sure he tried the street look and didnt do such a great job with it,but he loved the sport so much he wanted to change with it.Then you have all the cookie cutter bikes of today!I have a great idea,lets have 40 companies besides Standard Bykes all share a cookie cutter and mass produce junk!!!Lets see how many bikes R.L. rode back in the day theat people blow their savings on to own.Bashing one of the pioneers of freestyle and saying he was in the mags due to his fatheris not true .He rode the contests and won!He was paid the most for a reason.Sure Rick M and Kevin J. did harder and better tricks.Its called phasing out for the up and comers who learned the tricks R.L. ,Martin and Woody did and took it to another level.Thats what the sport is all about.Bully might not have been the strongest bike,but R.L. also had the hands on say about the General Osborn Pro,the R.L.20 and 22 ,so he was doing something right to have a say in all of that.Another thing.Mike D was the best vert rider in the world for a reason.He went higher and harder than any other rider in his time.Yet another pioneer of the sport.I think your article is a joke and you should apologize to R.L. for talking trash about him!!!tectobc and<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10748250057717415213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-30681147365069444892008-10-23T23:41:00.000-04:002008-10-23T23:41:00.000-04:00Yeah,I had the removeable GT bash guard back in th...Yeah,I had the removeable GT bash guard back in the day,was heavy,waist of money,didnt use it often.surfer_atomicohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07088717709774080208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-49298600329557836982008-09-23T11:08:00.000-04:002008-09-23T11:08:00.000-04:00here's a question (trivia of sorts...)?What was th...here's a question (trivia of sorts...)?<BR/><BR/>What was the dudes name that use to ride for bully, who did 540 footplant wallrides (fo-shizzle)... (He had a sequence in GO either doing a 540 wallride, or the footplant version of one...)<BR/><BR/>I believe his name was mike ALSO (not Kranikcicnckch)... he was also pre-mini-ramp-revolution circa 1991/2...<BR/><BR/>I remember her was on tour with Byers, Perry and I think Pete Kearney in or around 91...<BR/><BR/><BR/>Joe Rich rules.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-37105164914323687112008-09-11T15:19:00.000-04:002008-09-11T15:19:00.000-04:00During the 1987 season, RL placed top three in the...During the 1987 season, RL placed top three in the pro class in all six AFA events. He beat both McCoy and Moliterno in the pro class at some AFA events in 88. <BR/><BR/>Fairly obvious the dude in the Boss jersey can't ride street at all: http://www.23mag.com/gens/vada83.jpg<BR/><BR/>And that kook with the number plate is probably some local poser. Can't imagine he has accomplished much: http://www.biltwellinc.com/images/maddog.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-9335504336619712302008-09-11T14:58:00.000-04:002008-09-11T14:58:00.000-04:00"Later on he entered contests, but it was obvious ..."Later on he entered contests, but it was obvious the future belonged to up-and-comers like Rick Moliterno, Kevin Jones and Dennis McCoy."<BR/><BR/>Wasn't he kind of a top dude in pro flat for more than a minute, if not the dude? And it looks like he got third in "pro" at one of the first street contests, weird. I guess he was too much of a dork and dressed too foolishly to be a real street rider.<BR/><BR/>Who was the dork in the Boss racing jersey? That shit ain't street at all. There's also some kook in the background with a number plate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-54919764133727882122008-09-11T14:35:00.000-04:002008-09-11T14:35:00.000-04:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCm2Rb3fMCkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCm2Rb3fMCkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-34711772293984730382008-09-11T14:34:00.000-04:002008-09-11T14:34:00.000-04:00Check out RL riding street in Santee. Way cooler t...Check out RL riding street in Santee. Way cooler than 25grind variations on handrail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-86085832721222730752008-09-11T10:17:00.000-04:002008-09-11T10:17:00.000-04:00I'm pretty sure MCS bought Bully at some point aft...I'm pretty sure MCS bought Bully at some point after Bully had been around for a while. i may be wrong. and since most people may not even realize it...Bully is still in business, still owned by MCS and still making bikes. it's true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-31805628189175988842008-09-11T02:08:00.000-04:002008-09-11T02:08:00.000-04:00impressive post!!!impressive post!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-69791120390602964662008-09-11T00:19:00.000-04:002008-09-11T00:19:00.000-04:00Unless I'm confusing facts, wasn't Bully a...Unless I'm confusing facts, wasn't Bully a spin off of MCS Bicycles? I remember the Bully Piston (yeah I come from racing) being nothing more than a MCS Magnum w/ a few minor tweaks. My point is; MCS was always a stand-up company that made very good frames. It's surprising to me that Bully frames were such piles. Anyone know the affiliation? <BR/><BR/>And I never had a Titan or an Elf...But I still have my old Hawk F-20L. Talk about gimmicks... Square tubed aluminum frame. For strength! I fell for it as a 14yr old BITD. And to think I sold my 91' Holmes f&f to buy my Hawk frame. I'm going to hell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-21271922842797349952008-09-10T21:14:00.000-04:002008-09-10T21:14:00.000-04:00Just a couple of things:1) Should have remembered ...Just a couple of things:<BR/><BR/>1) Should have remembered R.L.'s long-hair days in the MFM beginnings. Ditto his riding in the MTS comps. Still thought he was a dork. A bit too harsh? Perhaps. Maybe I'm just still bitter about my own personal experience with Bullys.<BR/><BR/>2) Mike Buff was jumping off buildings to flat in the early '80s when no one much else was doing it. There was a great sequence of him jumping off The Bicycle Source (I think) roof on a PK Ripper with Z-Rims. He was a shell of his former self by the time he ended up on CW, but Buff was one of the first true street riders, IMO.<BR/><BR/>3) Definitely aware that S&M started in '87 and that many of their riders ran Kore guards (I've referenced the epic Clymer <I>Go</I> cover before). That said, seemed to me (as an East Coaster) that S&M didn't, uh, metastasize throughout the BMX body until a little bit later. Mammals and dinosaurs. Also, bolt-on guards were a whole different animal.<BR/><BR/>4) I remember hunting down Redline Flight sprockets because they were the thickest ones available and a lot more sturdy than all the flimsy "CD" sprockets. Somewhere I think I still have an entire shoebox of grind-damaged Izumi chains.<BR/><BR/>5) I believe history has shown that the Sprocket Pocket was superior in just about every way to the built-in bashguard. Lighter, cheaper, replaceable.<BR/><BR/>6) I just think the Bully was wrong in so many ways. Yes, it looked cool, from the low-slung toptube to McKee's graphics to the neon skidplate. If you were a BMX kid in '89, you wanted one. But underneath the cool exterior was a supremely shitty frame. Classic bait and switch, just all in one product.Russhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03648040810233420802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-74478653285441730862008-09-10T20:42:00.000-04:002008-09-10T20:42:00.000-04:00if you were into street riding in 89/90, bashguard...if you were into street riding in 89/90, bashguard bikes made sense. <BR/><BR/>AXLES, PEGS, and DROPOUTS had not evolved yet to withstand peg grinds and stalls, without having to replace axles constantly.<BR/><BR/>as for rear frame-mounted pegs, Hoffman put them on the first Condor. and peg-boss fork pegs stuck around a long time. S&M Ditchfork being primary example.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-85736823342826712302008-09-10T16:57:00.000-04:002008-09-10T16:57:00.000-04:00http://www.23mag.com/mags/go/go9202.jpghttp://www.23mag.com/mags/go/go9202.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-38122975154105946132008-09-10T16:41:00.000-04:002008-09-10T16:41:00.000-04:00"It would be hard to calculate how many "..."It would be hard to calculate how many "racers" rode S&M's with Kore bashguards during that time."<BR/><BR/>Hell, I'm pretty sure Todd Lyons is still riding one now. And screaming "I told you so," at everyone at SE HQ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-1084055543492281072008-09-10T16:37:00.000-04:002008-09-10T16:37:00.000-04:00you should be a journalist or something, that was ...you should be a journalist or something, that was pretty well writtenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-89366633923402988012008-09-10T15:40:00.000-04:002008-09-10T15:40:00.000-04:00Actually, I am sure John Paul does know everything...Actually, I am sure John Paul does know everything. The cool part is that he wrote it all down and put it into a Warpig toptube. Somewhere, out there in someone's garage is the BMX knowledge of the ages. <BR/><BR/>Or maybe it is just a dirty sock.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09340428087762726550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-88907130011922828102008-09-10T15:28:00.000-04:002008-09-10T15:28:00.000-04:00Come on, John Paul...calculate it! Try! You seem...Come on, John Paul...calculate it! Try! You seem to know everything else!Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09340428087762726550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-9459108705997316642008-09-10T15:21:00.000-04:002008-09-10T15:21:00.000-04:00Wow, so wrong on so many levels, and, you are indi...Wow, so wrong on so many levels, and, you are indirectly saying Dave Clymer wasn't progressive during the bashguard era. That's certainly punishable by death with a Kore removable bashguard. It would be hard to calculate how many "racers" rode S&M's with Kore bashguards during that time. The disregard for RL's riding is pretty out there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-77481246310574255232008-09-10T15:10:00.000-04:002008-09-10T15:10:00.000-04:00"Those may have been dark days financially, y..."Those may have been dark days financially, yes, but they also birthed rider-owned companies like S&M, Hoffman and Standard..."<BR/><BR/>S&M was born in 87, prior to the dark days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-49257871452522806352008-09-10T15:08:00.000-04:002008-09-10T15:08:00.000-04:00cool, time to buy some shitty dk grips and save th...cool, time to buy some shitty dk grips and save them for 20 years!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-1775314172524638222008-09-10T14:52:00.000-04:002008-09-10T14:52:00.000-04:00Enough RL "bashing" russ. Yeah, he did some kooky ...Enough RL "bashing" russ. Yeah, he did some kooky shit but who didn't in the 80's? I know that long after RL left the spotlight he still rode for himself. He had a killer spine/street ramp in his backyard during the mid 90's. He built it over top of his swimming pool (think Keith Treanor in Dirty Deeds). He could have built a flatland area or a vert ramp but he didn't. And let's not forget the famous Bully warehouse ramp. I always wanted to ride there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-66217487923353595862008-09-10T14:21:00.000-04:002008-09-10T14:21:00.000-04:00Good work, Russ. Duncan: well put when you stated...Good work, Russ. Duncan: well put when you stated that Bully and others focused more on image than QC. They meant well but left out the important part. I remember that McKee-drawn Bully ad and thinking it represented something soooo cool. Granted, I was 13 years old, but the changing of the guard was about to happen and it was an exciting time. I really DID think of bashguards as progression then. Admittedly, though, I confess that I also wanted the seat that Darren referenced. That thing was like the Leatherman tool of bike seats (who made it anyway? Schwinn?).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-39745265501414548082008-09-10T14:20:00.000-04:002008-09-10T14:20:00.000-04:00Quote from Lorenzo on Vintagebmx.com: "Back in the...Quote from Lorenzo on Vintagebmx.com: <BR/><BR/>"Back in the early nineties I rode a few times with Ruben Alcantara in Malaga (Spain), where we grew up. That was before he had entered any sort of competition or becoming a pro. The last time I ever saw him he was riding a Bully Bashguard bike... which I was amazed with. <BR/><BR/>I thought it was funny to see that he was prototyping a bashguard all those years later..."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-61996133349805682542008-09-10T13:57:00.000-04:002008-09-10T13:57:00.000-04:00i miss my hammer big macs shinguards.i miss my hammer big macs shinguards.CHROME_RIMS_YOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16303429207495434279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8634965595428261031.post-85989260839950507412008-09-10T13:45:00.001-04:002008-09-10T13:45:00.001-04:00very enjoyable read today, russ.12/10very enjoyable read today, russ.<BR/><BR/>12/10Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com